Real Patient Stories & Running Fails | Insights from Chiropractic Experts
That’s a wrap on this season of Week In Review!
Tune in as the team discusses what keeps clinicians motivated when patient care gets hard, shares embarrassing (and hilarious) running stories, breaks down a few real-world patient cases, and talks clinic culture, chiropractic education, and business insights. Whether you're a chiropractic student, new grad, or seasoned clinician, you'll find valuable takeaways—and maybe a few laughs—inside this episode.
Featured: Beau, Alex, Seth, and student guests from Parker University
Beau Beard (00:01.112)
Harry, if you listen to the beginning of these, can you put the master's music in the beginning? I don't know, can we, is that copyright infringement? can see it. Nobody cares, there's like five people listening to this. Last episode of the Week in Review for...
this on spring 17. maybe when so Maddox starts kindergarten, second week of August, that's when we'll start back up. So it's a whole year. I got a new vehicle the other day and I was on the test drive with a guy and we're just driving. The guy's a character anyways, and we're driving down the road and something came up about the year we graduated high school. goes, I graduated in 02.
And I go, I did too. He goes, no fucking way. So I go, I mean, like, screamed. I was like, oh. And he goes, no way. He goes, I don't know about you, you're like 33, 34, 35 max. I go, no, I graduated in two. He goes, God, I gotta get out of car business, man. So yeah, that made me, I guess, feel good. But then I also don't get ID anymore, and I have a lot of booze for tonight. So it's a rough day. Yeah, so episode 45, we got a crew here with us. So we got a bunch of shadows.
If you want to turn the mic on, just kind of give us an intro, it'll be 20 real quick. And then they're going to be popping some questions in later. And if you hear heavy breathing, it's them. Yeah, my name is Elisa Monkow. I'm a Cuypher student at Parker University. My name is Troy Briscoe. I'm also a Cuypher student at Parker University. And try eight, going into try nine.
But he'll also more than likely be here for his preceptor show. When? It'll start in September. So you might see more Troy on next season. Heck yeah. I'm Lolo. I'm also a preceptor student. I'm a tri-five. All right.
Beau Beard (01:58.51)
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competed against everybody that he would typically compete against in PGA because of the split. So a lot of people are saying you, throughout the, which wouldn't matter for the season, but in that event, they didn't allow some people to play or they weren't invited like Dustin Johnson. Thoughts?
They made a decision to go to live. That's my thing. I could see how people are like, maybe you wouldn't want if those players are in there. But if you make a decision to leave a league, you can't say that a major that's part of that league that that's putting an asterisk on it. Yeah. It be terrible for somebody that's tried for 11 years to win a that major in particular, but know, when another major. Yeah. So I thought that was interesting. A little bit of bitch baby syndrome from the rest of the golfers, in my opinion. Yeah. First blackjack event.
We had some attendees that were here as well. yeah, I think it went well. You want to give me feedback? Hand us a mic. Give us some feedback here. It was really great. was a really thought she was going to end there. It was awesome. was really great. They had a lot of fun events planned out for us, which is really good. Got to go out and see Nashville. That's where it's with DNS. I tend to recommend. Thank you. Yeah.
We'll give her a 20 under the table here after this. I thought it went really well and we on the per litter basically pre-supposed schedule we've got Brett coming back with TMJ either later this year or early next year which that's of course we won't want to miss but then we're gonna try to, Audra probably hates that I'm announcing this but.
Beau Beard (04:03.884)
have an optional Friday, addendum course with the first half being Auditor's husband, who is, in high level sales and, agriculture of all businesses, but, does disc profiles. So if you guys are familiar with that, it's basically like profiling personality. And then you see how the personalities intermingle or strengths weaknesses. doing an hour to max on that, we would kind of maybe right for lunch, maybe workshop that. then Auditor and I would come in because I think it's unique that our clinic and
have basically the same treatment profile, but she's like high value cash or insurance just based on where we're at. you approach the same treatment with two different business models and explaining how do you treat like this regardless of what your business structure looks like. So that would be the second half of the day, optional add on. And then we have a conversation with Rich on next week to solidify 2026, which will either be one or two events. He's already coming to Nashville for his strength training one DNS, which will be a richest thing. I don't know the date on that.
or if that's set, yeah, that'll be in Nashville as well. And then I might teach a course in there. So yeah, that's what's coming up for Blackjack. What do you guys got? General life updates? Good bowel movements? I mean, what's going on? Besides gout. B and A and B A. Right? I hope that Harry, if you're listening, just zoom in on that reaction for us.
It's just Alex says things and I just have to sometimes stop myself before I respond. The snap response. Yeah. Yeah. What's the time he doesn't stop? I don't think any that. I Oh, what? You did? Oh, congratulations. Yes. I appreciate I guess the challenge last time was to pick a race. Oh, I have looked at, I have not decided or signed up. I looked at Cloudland Canyon, which is 50K or 50 miler. 50K. Well, there's 50 miler too.
He's already come out. You said anything long in the marathon. So what we're gonna do though, if there's a, so say it's Cleveland, which is in Tennessee for you those. Georgia. Yeah. North Georgia. If you're not familiar, there's a, it's a 50 K and 50 miles. So if there's a race like that with two distances, we're let people vote.
Beau Beard (06:20.942)
I'm choosing 50 degrees. I was also looking at Mountain Miss. Ooh. Huntsville. Yeah, I That's a tough I know. It's the same elevation change, but it all comes at the end.
Most of the time, like, Mountain Mist, they're like, why don't you just, add two hours to your trip? It said you had to... it said there's portions where you will need to use your upper body.
But there's rope on the climb. You're you're like climbing the last six miles. I was going to tip over backwards. was cramping so bad coming up that climb. There aren't a lot of, cause I was looking at either end of this year, really more beginning of next year and there aren't a lot out. Yeah. There aren't a lot out yet on the registration. There was one in Mississippi. Yeah, but it didn't even, it was a loop. was like eight miles four times. There's blood rock. Yeah, there is actually cloudland canyon is the same bit.
You know the new level qualifier and cold water cold water something is it only 50k 50 mile think so And August 26
Beau Beard (07:46.574)
Mountain Miss, Mountain Miss, Mountain Miss, Mountain Miss, Mountain Miss, Miss, Miss, Miss, Miss, Miss, Miss,
Yeah, you it. You will. You can throw a follow on Strava. We got an influencer video coming next week. All right. Talk about GalGal. Talk about GalGal. We're not talking Uric acid. If any of you follow the... We've talked a lot of long business. I like I could have done that after...
Your big toes are So we talk a lot long distance running. For those of you who follow the sprinting world, Gout Gout is a just turned 17 Australian runner. He's actually from Sudan, competes for Australia, whatever. He's broken the national record for Australia. Like not their age group record, the national record in the 200, three times, two or three times in the last few weeks.
Every time he's done it, it's been wind-aided though, which is... He did break it. what that means. So if wind... it's a tailwind... it's tailwind-aided, meaning the wind is going with you more than I think it's what, 2.6 or 3 meters per second? Then... Nobody knows what you're about, it's 7 meters, so... I don't even... Yeah, I don't know. That would be like 9.9? Yeah, something like that.
Beau Beard (09:16.993)
So regardless if wind is pushing you from behind through a 200 or a hundred it can help you you also could have a headwind which they're not gonna count that as one day because it's hurting you but So if there's a certain amount of wind they don't count it if you break a record So he did break the record several months ago running 20.04
Beau Beard (09:49.36)
So he ran his fastest time has been 19.84 seconds which is super fast but I feel like something I was talking about this I am NOT taking away from Gaia it's fast
Maybe it's because it's Australian and that's faster than Australian records. If anybody knows who Arion Knighton is, he was 17 in 2021, I think, during the U.S. Olympic trials. He's American, ran, that season ran 1984 as well as a 17 year old, qualified for the Olympics, and the Olympics got fourth. The next year at 18, he ran 1949, which is...
The American record is 1932? Is that 1931? That's Noah Lyles. 1949 does not happen very often. Now he's not had a good last couple of seasons, but yeah, I don't know where he's at. We're going to see. But Gout Gout, Arion Knighton could be the future of the 200 meter after, because Noah Lyles is 27. In the sprinting world, you get close to 30. You're pretty much done.
So you're saying we're close to the end of our sprinting days? Yeah, man. I don't know. It might be inverse because this has never been able to sprint. So maybe I'm going to catch up after 30. We're talking about David Roche broke the Leadville record last year. So then you're going to try to break that. After you qualify it. Cold water. Not to be effused by warm water. No lukewarm. No.
Let's move into patient cases because I know we have some Q &A from the gallery. I'll give an update on my sister. if you listen to last episode, I talked about how she called me bawling saying that she tore her hamstring. Listen to that episode, but the details there are, surprise, surprise, it wasn't her hamstring. Had some low back stuff, nerve traction injury. Now her back is still, so her sacrum was bothering her before because she fell on her tailbone, fell down some stairs and now she's like back to
Beau Beard (11:48.48)
that and now she is still not doing anything and the tough thing is there's nobody kind of like us in the vicinity even though they live in Northern Virginia close to DC and then Todd Needher shout out is like two and a half hours away I know a bunch of people in school with but everybody is over an hour away
I would like to her to. How far is she from areas of Maryland? Clarksville, Maryland? Very far. That's where she's been actually. Anyways, the update with her is it's her back. It was always her back. Now she has no hamstring pain whatsoever. She's back to like tailbone sacral pain when she sits for a long time or transitional stuff. So watch the last episode, but then also go watch the YouTube video on nerve versus muscular strain just as a clinician.
You can get fooled pretty easy, just you want to check those boxes to make sure you're not treating something shouldn't be. So yeah, that's my update. What you got? A couple of episodes ago, we talked about a kid who had low back pain and
He'd previously been seen by another clinician in our office. He has diffuse congenital alenus malformation. And we basically talked a lot about the fact that he had these symptoms come on after he would play video games for a long period of time. During the week, he'll play maybe an hour or two a night. And then on the weekends, he had played like all
So he just sat and obviously blood was not flowing as easily because he's not moving but he also has those malformations. So I think I'd seen him once or twice before we had that episode. I've seen him maybe twice since then and he it was not like we needed to change his movement. I mean there's things that he wants to start working out with his older brother at the gym just to be moving more.
Beau Beard (13:35.63)
And so we're going to work on his hip hinge pattern and things that that way when he starts working out in the gym, he doesn't run the issues. But he, I basically just had him, you know, trying to get him to do some sort of movement in between when he's playing just to break it up so that he gets blood pumping. And, know, for a kid that's not motivated to get up and do anything, I just like, what do like to do? He likes to play basketball. So, all right, just go shoot some hoops for five minutes and then come back.
Just do something like that, maybe with your brother. So he's been doing that. And then we talked about some anti-inflammatory things with nutrition with his mom. Cause again, trying to motivate a 12 year old kid to eat better is not super easy unless they're just intrinsically motivated. But he also doesn't have a ton of control over that.
what they're cooking at home so she's able to change some of the oils we're cooking with and try to do more meals at home versus eating out. So having soft drinks for sparkling water, stuff like that.
So he's doing better. Uh, you really got on the seed oil kick with patients on it. I got invited to Paul Saladino's Costa Rica event. You want to, I'll pass the invite to you. Sure. Maybe there's a race in Costa Rica. Why not? Costa Rica? Yeah. The primary hotel is cold. It's a race across Costa Rica. I'm not joking on this one. So we have PEMF mats in the other room over here and they make an office chair. And I was thinking that kid playing video games that much.
like it might be worth it I don't want somebody sitting that much anyways you can't break that or the parents aren't going to like that could be a big win yeah that's a huge thing for Indio Theodol functions so that's why was kind like yeah maybe it's not a gaming chair if that's what he's sitting in but that could be a benefit. Cooked Trill. What about you Seth? Last time we talked about
Beau Beard (15:31.118)
My patient who's gonna be looking at some Ironman stuff. But I asked her yesterday, I said, hey, look, I'm giving an update on you on a podcast. So I need a raise. And she laughed. And she goes, right now all I'm trying to do is just have a position that I can give the Google review to. So we're just, she doesn't have a raise, she just wants to give us a good Google review. is that?
Yeah, okay. I heard her at the front desk. Yeah, yeah, she's the one who up at our gym together. Yeah, but yeah, so I mean we're moving, we're moving in the right direction.
She's having a lot of progress. She goes, I'm just waiting for like, I she's like two more weeks or so. She goes, I'll have a good idea then. I was like, okay. She goes, I'm very critical on like all of my healthcare people that I see just because of everything that I've been through, which if you didn't hear everything that she went through, just listen to the last episode, all five of y'all and make sure you have friends along so you have to, yeah. So for, because know a lot of clinicians and students listen to this, so a little bit of a like.
business insight. I heard Seth's patient come up to the front desk and she goes, I cannot believe how like different he is than or different the approaches whether she said here approach, then my other chiro's just like physicians overall and like
It's just so different. goes, I'm loud. I'm going to tell everybody. And so I heard that. And then I heard what our front office staff and I'm always listening to like what's being said. So I just went out to our staff afterwards. Like, if somebody says that, cue them up on, Hey, would you mind sharing that on a Google review or on social media and tag us in it? Like, don't be, you know, bashful. they're like, well, we think she's kind of waiting to see how it goes. I I don't care. Cause you don't know how it's going to go. Like, and she's excited now. So like put that out there.
Beau Beard (17:21.058)
So I'm not a huge fan of scripting. think it comes off, depending on your staff. You gotta read your staff. Some people love scripting, some people don't. We have one that does and one that doesn't. It'll be the desk. So scripting, if I give one to scripting, it comes off.
very plastic scripted. It's not per the other one can make it her own. So for future clinicians, business owners realize that like those little things matter a whole lot. And then like things change over time. So you may implement something and also need to see it here. We still doing this. And I had to look at our reviews going out the other day. It's like, they weren't going out like we wanted to. And also, so it's like constant, you know, checklist manifesto, like here things running like we want because ideal
You want to walk into your even if you're the business owner walk into your clinic and just be a clinician That's never gonna happen But the idea world sets what you're working towards you can only do that through like processes and having those checklists kind of taken care of by You or at least hopefully at some point somebody else Yeah, I don't either when somebody says something like not like oh my god, was awesome like literally somebody told which is a little creepy Maybe somebody told someone the other day
She's like getting adjusted by you is like eating a warm cookie. And she goes, I've been to a ton of other chiropractors. goes, it's like the best, you know, like you, I know that sounds kooky, but like you want to be like, Hey, would you mind sharing that? Sounds kooky. Yeah. That's a dad joke for you. Yeah. If something, if somebody's like, Oh my God, like I've had this miraculous, whatever.
like really about the process and the clinic, not their outcome, because their outcome, I'm not hopped up on that stuff. Yeah, ask them or tell them to share it or, know, we thought about doing the video kind of review thing. I don't know if I'd ever want to do that though. We did one. Yeah, it was good. But I guess we can do that now that we have an editor again.
Beau Beard (19:26.786)
We'll see. Yeah, so that's patient updates. Moving into questions from the crowd since we have a live audience here and it's gigantic.
So you guys have some questions. So who's up first? I guess I'll go first. I actually do have a question talking a little bit about the running world. I myself am a runner and I love to post a little about running on tiktok specifically. And I got to interview Alex yesterday and ask him a really fun question that I would love to extend to go and set today. But yeah, we got to hear Alex's yesterday and that will be posted on social media here next week.
But any funny, embarrassing stories that have happened to either of y'all while running that y'all wanna share?
Beau Beard (20:20.342)
I'll think for a minute. Yeah, plenty. I'm just trying to give you a... I think it's funny how bad I beat this guy one time. I'm just kidding. We need to pull up pictures up.
You got anything you'd make up right away? Well, let's tell a short recount of yours since our audience might I really didn't have a new shopping. While running. While running. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I can think of a lot What were you thinking of? Oh, I don't know who re-wiped out your foot got stuck under the bridge. I forgot about that one. I have locked and loaded people, y'all. So we were on the trail across the street here. We can run across the highway to the trail. It's a half mile.
I'm turning onto the bridge that's wooden then becomes concrete. It had rained the day before. Sharp turn onto the bridge. I slip, feet go underneath me.
my leg gets caught under the railing and I'm there by myself and I'm trying to pull my leg out and it won't come out and I can't reach around and untie my shoe and some guy sitting in his truck he sees it all happening hey man you okay? I have I mean there's moss and stuff on the deck or the bridge there so it's all over my side
I get the shoe off and it's entirely over the side of the shoe. said, Hey man, can you untie my shoe and then go around and grab it so I can get my foot out? yeah, didn't sprain my ankle. Yeah. Totally forgot about it. When Alice has sharp turn 45 degrees, maybe, but trail shoes and a wooden bridge are slick. So, um, yeah, I'll kind of go with mine.
Beau Beard (22:09.294)
I ran a race. have a park called red mountain. Um, it's called red mountain because there's a lot of iron and red clay and stuff in the dirt. Uh, I've heard the story here. So I, it was the resolute run or something to 15 K and I'm up with the leaders and actually I was running with my body and at one point he was a collegiate runner at one point he goes, Hey, I'm going to take off. okay. So I'm by myself at this point and it was a big like downhill and then you're to go uphill. And I absolutely just Superman.
I eat shit and I cut my hands up a little bit on rocks but I have a white running singlet on and I get back up and I'm in somebody caught me because I was hobbling around I grab on my knees I'm in third place and I'm right behind the second place guy so you know you hear people starting to clap as you get the gravel road exit at Red Mountain
And like I hear everyone clapping for that guy and then everybody starts clapping for me. And then as I come through, everybody's because my singlet's torn. looks like I'm bleeding everywhere. I had some blood and like one lady goes, I think we should call the doctor. Is I'm running through it. I was like, no, I'm good. I'm like, not that bad. It was from like, it's on a like the master's one. It's like,
Is this after or before the run that you did that you gashed your arm? That was way before. I wasn't sure if you were comparing it to that. Not a lot of blood. I wouldn't say I was embarrassing. was just like, might bleed out in the woods.
Beau Beard (23:43.919)
Well, no. So if you're watching... Hold on, hold on. I'm talking. If you were watching this and you're watching... What was that catastrophe? A school challenge. If you're watching this or listening to it and then you listen to her TikTok, there will be two answers. From Alex Coleman himself. Yeah, I actually got it. I I've never heard anything from you, I, yeah...
I told them about the number of the leafs, the leafs that you were running. Can I tell a story? Maybe not most embarrassing, but was that your first show race? Which one? I don't know. Oh yeah. That's a good one. Those are sweet. I don't even know if that's like embarrassing. I say embarrassing or funny. I feel like the one where I fell in lead is
Yeah, so let me tell you, tell that one, but so Seth runs a hefty race. So it's one of the harder trail races. It's 19 miles and it's two loops and it's hot in hell. in July. So it's notoriously hot, but what's happened for the past few years, it rains in the beginning. So it's like tricks you into being like, you can run faster cause it's not as hot down. So were you winning second or third for quite a bit of the race, like takes off for me at some point and then it kind of goes off on
I was second through 14. Yeah, um, and then you climb out of like a canyon at one point and all of a sudden I kind of look up and you have these like candy stripe shorts on which are embarrassing themselves
Beau Beard (25:28.43)
Food. Yeah, you were out. I took one goo and I had no water. No water. It's a 19 mile race that takes usually about three hours of change.
I was just, I didn't take any cause I was waiting for like eight station to eight station. Yeah. I just kind of a little bit like Taurus in the hair. I went on to beat Seth and that race was wild. was too big. you came in at the end, like, just lays on the ground. best part was the Kit Kats and the chocolate chip. We kept seeing people come through because we were at the tent and it two loops. So we came through, he came through second. I'm like, man, Seth's doing good.
And we kept seeing people finish and I said...
It's mean it's 40 minutes after he should have already come through. I came through and I was like I'm feeling great. I just went to the first nine and I was like well I'm just kind of chilling right now. I'm in second. I saw the first place guy like take off after I was like trying to get some water. I was like over. I'm fixing to go real this guy in. No I was getting real Ben. Yeah hard. What's the leaf story? that one was we were in St. Louis
and there's a ton of leaves like around the apartment complex that we live in, ton of trees, and it was like right around like guess like late fall early winter so people were just like blowing all the leaves like to the sides that way the city could come by pick it all up and I was running and I like slightly like rolled my ankle like stepped off the curb like try and go around this like huge leaf pile
Beau Beard (27:09.832)
I slipped on these leaves back first into a pile of leaves and I mean I'm literally laying in there like you can't see. Like those videos of dogs just like going and keeping themselves in the giant piles was me. Meanwhile it was one of those like I was defeated when it happened. Because you heard like multiple cars passing by but they probably can't see me or know that I'm sitting there. And then I stand up out of there.
As a car is passing by and they of like slightly like swerve a little bit. Which I'm probably like scared of. were like... They were like some great pumpkin. Some homeless guy was just like chilling and he was like... That was probably... That was probably a good one. I was just so low so like no one saw that. just had to say it. You tell them when came home. Most of mine have happened by myself where you're just laying there like...
you know, bad fall or just something stupid or I got a brand new got a brand new iPhone went and ran transition from trail to a wooden bridge. go parallel to the ground and have my phone in my hand or whatever and land on it. And when I get up, I'm not kidding. My phone's a 90 degree angle. And I was like,
tell someone and you're just by yourself. My other one, don't even know if it was embarrassing, it more so just tick me off. It was in high school, so we're doing like a track workout and we have some like 200s to finish off our workout and it's rained the day before.
And if you know anything about Sparkman High School, it's very nice now. They now have a rubberized track. When I was there, it was an asphalt track. It basically was a parking lot, two different color asphalt. They repaved half of it, left the other half. So I mean, it sweet. The first half that was... So here's the thing. The first half that was repaved had no lines. The part that was old concrete had lines that like a drunk guy kind of up there and like...
Beau Beard (29:04.366)
He put some white down, but that's what he did to us. And the first lane was taken up by just like mud. So we're like ripping around this corner and there's our sprinters that are over on the outside and like some of our long jump athletes. And so there's probably like four or five of us just trying to rip some like all out 200. So it was the last rep and our coach is like, I just want you to go all out. And he's like, I want this to be an actual race. like we split up in like lanes and all that.
Well, I lane one, was like, yeah, I'll take this. Bad mistake. In the modulus. yeah. Back there where like our scoreboard is was just like, again, a mud pit. I hit that one step and I was in the curve and then I was parallel to the ground sliding on my rocks and gravel. And I got up and I think what ticked me off, there was two things. I got up and
mainly just the last rep and I was like of course like I don't get to finish the last rep here and then my coach goes and that was 45 seconds and I was like yeah and he wrote it down that I ran a 45 on my last one and I was like are you serious and he's like yeah you didn't stand back up I was like oh maybe because I was sliding and I had like rocks in my leg like trying to so yeah it was tough. A lot of embarrassment to go around here.
Wish got Troy. All right. Love the stories, by the way. Ellie's going to have to share mine on her social media. And they're going not be a poop story. I going say, feel like that's what people's mind go to. it just is running. I could have plenty of those. I decided to not. Yeah. We appreciate it. Yeah, definitely. Well, hey, so us over here in the gallery, we are students, as we shared earlier.
and that will be out in the real world treating patients. One day we've already started seeing patients in the clinic on campus. So my question is, when it gets tough out there in the trenches with patient care, what keeps you going? What keeps you motivated, rocking and rolling, ready to serve your patients to the best of your ability? Alex is going to take this one first. OK.
Beau Beard (31:23.054)
these guys because normally i get frustrated with the case i range to the group we talk about it and even if it's hard for me to see they'll be like you were doing the right thing you didn't trust it enough you didn't give it enough time so just know why you're doing it and then do it longer that's probably a nutshell but why do you so what keeps you motivated when you get punched in face with that info
I don't know. mean, feel like having been in the shoes of the patient, that's like literally how I met y'all. That's a big, especially if they're a runner, kind of have that connection. Whatever it is that they want to be able to do. I want them to be able to do that thing because they weren't, they're not able to, or to the capacity they want to when they come in. And I feel like...
That's something that the Lord's given me passion for and that I'm constantly reminded of that by y'all.
guess I have kind of a couple. Mine is maybe kind of what Brett talked about at D &SA. Even though I may get punched in the face, I still know that I can have a hand in their care. Whether that is if I'm having success or not, can at least know that I did everything in my power.
to give them the best care and that maybe either whether it's personality or you know management of the case or maybe they're just not my they don't need to be with me anymore they need to seek care somewhere else i was able to at least like i don't know give them the best in my opinion up front so that way whoever they go to next has a better success can have a potential better success rate in my opinion
Beau Beard (33:29.678)
So you get to have like a hand in their care. feel like that's kind of what keeps me going is knowing that.
Yeah, just when they when they leave here, I wanted to kind of be like that patient where it's just like it was so different again how you said like, regardless of the outcome, it was just it was different. Yeah. Yeah. Whether it's good or bad. Yeah, that's mine. Mine, you know, mine started with most people have heard like I had subpar care as a kid. So it kind of extends and Alex is like, you're okay with it so far. What?
So your care wasn't so poor. But that I wanted to provide better care than I ever had and like not allow the scenario that happened to me happened to anybody else. But that's kind of evolved to, I think that that extends into general health care. And even though we might not be primary care physicians, I feel like.
understanding the whole person and the organism is probably far more important than I ever paid homage to, but like you will be way better at considering musculoskeletal care if you approach it that way. And by doing that, then you put yourself in center of care, which gets into what Seth was saying. And I think that, and it sounds like I'm being maybe big head of it, like that doesn't happen. First of all, like just from a thematic standpoint in medicine, like.
I mean, had a conversation with a primary care physician in our gym yesterday. He's like, he is one of the few around here that tries to spend time even though he's an end insurance model. It's tough, but we don't book 60 patients. We have a limit at 30 because we don't want to do this, people.
Beau Beard (35:05.518)
So I think you can put yourself in the center of care like Seth said, but then you have to also realize the responsibility. like I take that on full because I feel like nobody else is. And that's what motivates me is like, well, if nobody else is to do it, we need to. And then if you're going to, don't just do it, do it like to the best of your ability. like, you know, everybody's going to have different abilities, but I don't know who said it, you know.
you hard work or kind of tenacity is going to be skill any day. like whatever skill that you start with, like you keep working at it and pretty soon you're to beat people that it comes easier to or have a proclivity for it. Yeah. Over the years I've kind of evolved and it's like, like at this point, I think I, in a nice way, if you go toe to toe with any physician, obviously I'm not a general surgeon, I'm not a rheumatologist, but like put me in room with any those people. I'm going have a conversation at a high enough level. And my mentor, Brett Winchester, think that's his success. Like he has such good connections in St.
is because that's why he knows all these doctors. He sits down and can have a conversation of where he's the content expert in his field, but then he can communicate in their field. So all of them are like, oh my God, yeah, like this guy gets it. Not an expert, you're never gonna be an expert in that stuff. Yeah, that's kind of what motivates me is like gaining knowledge, interpreting it, putting it back out to the patient base so can be like the best physician in their medical team, not just a chiropractor. I think going along with that, like what motivates you is to not get punched in the face again.
Beau Beard (36:35.306)
female athletes and they just have a lot of like stuff going on I feel like especially around like the teenage years like volleyball, softball there's a lot going on and so like they're like a mom or a dad will ask me a question and it's just like sometimes I don't know the answer to that and that's like tough sometimes to admit that but also they like respect that you didn't just give them like like a bull crap answer like they're like yeah I appreciate that I was like I'll look at that next time we'll discuss it you know the next time you come in I was like I don't think that's like super pertinent to the case
going on currently but just some overall general help we'll discuss that next time and that allows me to be able to have time to go research some stuff and have some answers banked for their questions just for two or three steps beyond what we may talk about.
Yeah, I don't think and to kind of wrap this up, I don't think people realize when you, you know, if this model or approach is like what you're going to be doing out there, if you're a patient listening, if you're not familiar, a longer first visit, and then the follow ups aren't just like five minutes, like see you later. It's just a time component. So if you spend that much time with somebody, you're going to open up doors of conversation where all these generalized health things come out because they know that you have some, some knowledge in those domains. then like, that's what I'm saying. So like you evolve and then you realize like, oh, I'm not, you know, obviously
prescribe, can't perform surgery, you have limits also the advice that can give, but you also realize like, God, the level of the advice that's being given is so sub standard that like, all you gotta do is give good advice and you're above the cuff. And then if it's like, you understand things, not just know, right? I still, to this day, I remember when I had Phil snow on my podcast and he's like, you have to be better than the podcast. So a lot of practitioners listen to something here, they pair it back to somebody and it seems like they know, but then if they got questioned about that,
like they fall apart because they only know the surface level he goes if you don't know anything more than what podcast said you should don't open your mouth and I think that's always my goal is like if I don't understand you know the female hormone profile how that affects you know perimenopausal symptoms the female athlete you know the James of high school age girl then I'm not gonna open my mouth and I say well yeah it affects it I you know how much I don't I mean that's you know being truthful like Seth said so yeah the motivation like you know multiple facets to it but don't get punched in the face obviously be humanitarian
Beau Beard (38:49.858)
and then try to do best position you can. Thank you. Two questions. Okay, so I got two questions. Is that okay? Yeah. Okay. We'll see. Let's have quality first. So my first one's like, what's like a funny, embarrassing, forced-awaken catwalk at school? Does it have to be like a failed primary Cause that's kind of boring.
Second question is, a Pilates princess, so what are y'all's thoughts on Pilates? That's a good question. I'll start with that so that I can think about the embarrassing ones. We deal with a lot of, I've seen tons of Pilates instructors and obviously people that are involved in it.
The interesting thing, know, Joseph Pallotti was a chiropractor, obviously stopped practicing and just kind of taught that, you know, kind of framework. Obviously there's concepts within Pallotti's that don't hold true, right? The whole draw your relevant into your spine stuff, which gets taught largely. mean, there's different camps within Pallotti's as well, you know, that better than I do.
but there's concepts that don't hold water in day to day life. But just like I tell people, my back hurts swinging golf club 200 times yesterday. Swinging golf club wreaks havoc on a unilateral rotational sport. like we do things that are not like really, you know, built for like human daily life. And then you're like, well, what would you do to offset that? So when I have somebody that is hardcore, you know, we're talking about intravenominal pressure with Pilates. like, well, I'm not going to go, don't do it during Pilates. But if you want to operate and
daily life and not have back pain whatever you're with and you know be even better at Pilates when you go in there like this concept holds water in general daily life so it's just it's a framework of like a sport like i don't think that you know what most of it is taught in ballet is like great to do everyday life but am i going to tell somebody they shouldn't be a ballerina no like that's what you want to do do it
Beau Beard (40:45.326)
So yeah, I just see it as a sport framework, but then my problem with it, if we had to kind of get to the negative would be that does get extended to day to day life. like Pilates becomes, you, Pilates is lengthening and they're like, hmm.
You know, so the conceptual framework just goes back to everything I teach in my course. Like, could you run what's being taught through a science-based framework and say, was that all the water? I was like, no, then it becomes a sport or a practice. Yeah. You guys have a different take? Yeah. think that to be able to.
Women doing that all day, that's a big one, because they just don't. Or the only thing they do. Yeah. That would be... Yeah, true. you're doing... I've told people to because it's a novel input. It's put in your... Especially if I... I mean, a guy. Like, a lot of guys are like...
their wife has a reformer, they know something, yeah, go do that, that's just different, it's gonna challenge you, you're gonna see where you fall apart. Yeah, so I have no issue with it, I just see it as a framework, right? I would say yoga has more extension in daily life, depending on what type of yoga you're doing. It's just a different practice. Yeah, I remember when we were up at Rich's in Columbus for Dina's strength training a couple years ago, the gym that we did it at, the owners there have Pilates classes, and they're a little bit,
love to sat in on a class like that of their class to see how different it is compared to going to a normal ploddy class because it sounds like they hear those principles some but then they understand intradominal pressure and how it relates to our movement. That's been my thing like you could take it and like make it different and make it better in opinion. I say better because then that's like sounds like a slam but it's you can make a lot of stuff better by implementing some different concepts into it rather than being dogmatic and that applies everywhere. Practice or training.
Beau Beard (42:32.303)
the embarrassing chiropractic school. So okay, you guys might have heard this, but mine has nothing to do with early chiro school, but I have it in chiro school. They've for sure heard this. So my wife now, I went to Logan for a semester before she was there because I had to one pre-req class. So I had kind of small group friends and we're sitting in the second row and then Sloan comes in, she literally had a week between undergrad and grad school. So she just kind of right in. Doesn't know anybody, she sits in the front row by herself and little do I know,
She's like.
like overly stressed about just kind of moving and being done with school. And she's like, get her wits in already. So if you've ever been in a bathroom, the two biggest like urinal and toilet companies were Kohler and then Sloan is the other one. So I go to the bathroom, good looking blonde sitting in front of me. I come back and like all of my guy friends were sitting together and I just like, I don't know if I tap her on the shoulder like, Hey, is your family in the urinal business? And she literally just looks at me and turns around and just goes,
and turns right back around all of a sudden. So fast forward two years and we started dating and then eventually closed the deal. Yeah, that was probably I wasn't that embarrassed but it's like extremely funny to see that that's our first.
Beau Beard (43:56.386)
And every time I see a song here, I'll that Humble beginnings. I'm sure Seth's going to remind me of a better one. You weren't there for this one. Try to...
It was winter, February-ish. we, if you've ever been to Logan, there's a track behind the school. And in between class, we just walk a lap, come back in. From Alabama, we don't have winter, don't have snow, nor do we have ice. Occasionally we have ice. We're walking the track. I'm with three of my close friends who were all ex-military. One was a medic with the Green Berets. One was on bomb squad with the Air Force. Like, he fit Ryan.
Yeah, the medic dude was 6'7". Big red beard. Yeah, and we're walking. Next thing I know, I'm on my back. I was like, what just happened? They said, dude, you hit a patch of ice and just boom, right back.
I'm kind of dizzy, they help me up. Phil literally, the medic, looks over at me and he's like checking my eyes and everything. All right, we're good, we keep walking. I start walking to the side like this way and I walk in the inner field and Phil goes, all right, we're done. And I had a concussion. The rest of the week, we'd be in an MPI and I'm laying on my side trying to sit up. This is not okay. And yeah, that was, oof, I man, they really.
They really are out here like this. Yeah, bomb squad guy. Getting like bombs detonated. This guy's getting an epidural bleed by getting some black ice. Also, the track was not full of ice. I found the one patch of ice that was out there. That's on bar. That's on bookstores. Alright, got a better one? I'm gonna tell them about this one.
Beau Beard (45:52.098)
Most of mine involved me just like being asleep. yeah. Yeah. But it's to get pictures and videos all the time. I'd say this one I was outside. there's like a little pavilion out at Logan around the track next to where he probably hit the ice patch. it was like the first day I finally got like warm. So I was like, I'm to go sit outside and study. so while I'm sitting out there, this yellow jacket or wasp just like,
yeets itself into my shirt. Like I'm literally not doing anything I have to promote. I'm literally in the middle of like an OB or a pediatrics like PowerPoint just reading through it. AirPods in the next thing I know this gloss like nails me in the neck and then just goes to town on my collarbone.
and I go to like pull it out and when I do I like rip one of my chains off. I've got shirts off and this thing is still getting on. I've done all this and it's still having fun. eventually it hits the ground and I stomp on it. First of all, I pick it up and set it on the railing and I just want all of its frames to know what happened. After it got after you. After it got after me. And then I start like sweating because I mean like...
It's popped me a few times around my throat. I'm not allergic, you get hit around your throat. You start thinking, God, something could go wrong. As many times as I did get stung. And I look and there's seven different places where it just lit into me. And then so I started having my head that's around my whole neck. Except I had a little bit of allergic reaction to it. And my heart rate kind of got up a little bit and I was sweating. was like, it really don't feel so good.
And then like my girlfriend at the time, she had some like...
Beau Beard (47:43.022)
She actually had like some like B-steam cream that she like had like in her car. And I texted her, was like, I just got like smoked by a water. So she came up there. She's like, I actually had like steam cream. I was like, I'll take some of that. like rubbed it on my neck. And I felt better after that, but it was like, you gotta be kidding me. I just packed it up. I went home. Yeah. He said studying is done. Yeah. I mean, it was like two walking after that. I was like, yeah, I'm done studying for the day. That was a good, that was a good debrief coming home that day. Well, how was your day? Well.
I'm gonna absolutely bombard my lost. One lost is a great panic on me. I'll wrap it up with Slumster. She's not here. She'd tell her she was. know it's hers. So we... Do you guys have to do stab lab? do you have to roll it? No. So my wife has always had like...
She had cardiogenic syncope in high school, gets very faint with different stuff, but like needles, and she's having mezzo bagel, she's gone. She can't even, she doesn't dry needle, and if she even watches us, she's like, let's take her out. So in Logan, we had to give three, take three. So you have to have, you know, just to pass it around, but you have to draw three blood samples. Because in like Oregon, in certain places, you can draw blood.
So, Kuhn was our professor for this and they have STAB lab, which is a lab, so big lab tables, concrete floor. And you had a, person taking the blood, the person giving the blood and then two catchers and there's people standing behind you. And Sloan is the person catch supposed to be catching the person. And I look, I'm across the lab table and I look over it and Sloan's just looking like this and all the colors drain is like Sloan.
dating or anything and I run around her eyes I get over there she's like turns into puddle mud and she goes in this recliner in the corner like a recovery chair for like giving blood and somebody gets some food so when she wakes up and she just wakes up and she's what happened? like eats some cookies or something so you do these all in one day so you just get done and Professor Kuhn's like someone you have to do this to pass his class and he goes you have to he helped her out he goes you have to at least
Beau Beard (49:59.122)
all blood once because she could do it and get through it and just like cover her eyes and be seated and you know get through it.
So she goes to do it on my friend Wes and she like the needle touches his skin and she just crumples and he's like and like somebody caught her and we're like so professor Kuhn he goes and he called her Sloan you're gonna take my blood so professor Kuhn roll he remember he always wears a sweater over yeah he rolls the sweater up he's got his arm out there and he's literally sluts so she's seated on a stool you know usually standing so she's on a tall like lap stool
she's seated and she has to take his blood. So he's going, Sony, I'm fine. I'm fine. Nothing's happening to me. She's going like this. So if you're watching the video of my head on my arm, she's going like this. He's like guiding needle and she puts it in and then like, you know, it's an automatic vacuum and gets the blood and then goes over and passes out. That's how she got through stab. So I was like right before we started dating. So I bring that up every once in a
You would have just split your head open like an egg on a frying pan if I hadn't caught you that day. I had a question, are we licensed to do that? In Oregon, like some of the certain states you can draw. think Alabama can draw. I remember Sloan telling me that story before I was moving to Logan and I didn't know that we didn't have to do that anymore. I was like, Alex, you're fine. Alex was somewhat the same. I can stick people. You needle, yeah, there's usually blood taking. Yeah, many, many times. I thought we were also doing pants down basic and that was...
That thankfully is not a thing. There's some embarrassing stories there. Yeah, I was also told when we had our OB class that we had to do prostate vaginal exams on each other. Oh yeah, we didn't send any help. He did that! See, we did that but on like mannequins. No, they told me it was on each other. No, pick who you were going be doing it That's crazy. And he believed us. My two partners were, was like, dude, they're married. Like they got four kids. They're just going to say, mm-hmm, you.
Beau Beard (52:01.294)
I wouldn't call it basic either. Advanced.
Beau Beard (52:12.062)
I guess we'll leave that for another day. For everybody who doesn't know we're talking about, there is a technique that was founded by the founder of our school that was a basic Logan, Logan basic technique. it's, I don't know, contact the state of Chuvash, it's a bunch of mumbo jumbo.
basically your fingers and somebody's butt and yeah, we had to do a skin on skin. You're with a long partner. go back to anatomy class. Not to mention you're like tinted up on this table. Yeah. Yeah. So imagine you're on a table where the table's angle of your ass is in the air and then you got a partner who's nervous themselves and you're back there and it's. You have a student on camera that's being demonstrated on.
The professor that's going to correct your technique comes around and takes your hand and is just like, what are you doing? It's always more medial. You can't go wrong if you go more medial. Now, having said it, I've used that on a couple babies that haven't went to the bathroom and they go to the bathroom almost immediately. So, take it or leave it. Have I ever been on a live adult human since I left school? No. Will I ever? Hope not.
I can't quite see myself why I would use it in dark days. Somebody's gonna come in and request it on the internet. I think that's a referral. to do that. They're like, no, I think you went to Logan. Yeah, not today. No, no, actually that's just a fake play. Tom Parker grabbed it today. You said you've been a practicing at yours? Yeah, it's still in the way. Those are good questions.
Yeah, so I guess that's giving a conclusion anything before we work in the first show race the series Yeah, three and six mile or so if we see out there if you're listening locally Seth's doing a mock triathlon this weekend. So we'll see if he stays up right on the bike and doesn't drown in the lake and hopefully
Beau Beard (54:14.542)
Never seen them fight sharks. Yeah, three weeks out from fighting sharks. Oh yeah, ocean swamps. They found a great white right off the desk a week ago. Really? Yeah. They're there, man. Cool. Awesome. Cool. Cool. All right, as usual, if you have any questions, you can hit us up in the comments. You can always send me an email, drbeard.gmail.com, and see you in the fall. Peace.
